![]() ![]() people like the new order or belligerent undesirables are others. Corps are def one (and decent high sec corps are rare). The MOST important thing is to join some communities in eve. They ganked the multiboxers stealing all my ice for me and gave me contacts for orca boosts in my area. i bought a permit, joined their channel and found friendly helpful people. I made a alt to test this and went mining (which i loathe). They don't gank people who follow those rules (needs a permit 10 mill/year and a pledge of loyalty in your bio). ![]() To elaborate the biggest miner ganking group is the New Order. Retriever: -Effective HP: 9614 -Shield cap: 2875 -Armor: 2125 -Structure: 2500 -Defence: 9 -Yield: 1093 Now compare that to a Covetor: -Effective HP: 7213 -Shield cap: 2125 -Armor: 1625 -Structure: 1875 -Defence: 10 -Yield: 1203 Am i wrong to understand that the Covetor is likely to be destroyed far before the Retriever will be? Or does that Defence rating upped by 1 do that much more? One more thing, here is the Procurer which kind of took my interest: Procurer: -Effective HP: 29065 -Shield cap: 9375 -Armor: 6250 -Structure: 6875 -Defence: 17 -Yield: 1002 Why take risk being ganked in a retriever/covetor, when i don't see a Procurer being ganked that easily, just for ~200 yield. I am using EFT V2.22.1 and with it i made some builds: *Using with just Mining Laser Upgrade II and Strip Miner I to all slots on all ships. What i have made out, is that most people recommend a Covetor over a retriever when you need tank. The game updates might have changed a lot. So far, i have found lots of information but it is all old information and thus most likely not even valid anymore. I have been doing a lot of reading up the last two days, trying to figure out exactly what it is i need and how the game works. Thank you in advance.ĭo the people who gank me get the total ship's value including the equipment i fit? Or do they get a certain percentage, if so is it based on RNG? Read this: Thanks for all the advice. Or would a Covetor do better in 0.5 sec? Any information is more then welcome. Is there a formula that indicates if it is safe to go into 0.5 sec with a specific ship, that takes Tank fits, Ship cost, enemy DPS and enemy profit into one equation? Simply put, when am i good to go, and when will i become a target? Nobody will gank me if they know they will fail or know they will sacrifice more then what they earn. With the right tanking fit, can this ship do 0.5 sec mining? I am aware of two threats, being the "reds" (npc's) and players that might gank me with a low costly ship in order to have benefit. When looking at the information below, it mentions 0.5 sec. So, right here i have this link to the retriever, and it shows a couple of fits. It is my understanding that the lower the security level, the better ore you will find generally speaking. However, i have a few questions i would like to ask about a certain fit. Later on i will engage in combat ) A friend of mine donated me a retriever, which i am working towards now on skill basis. I got myself 3 months game time to let myself go and i am really looking forward to it! So far, i enjoy mining most. I hope you found this series of posts useful.Hello EVE players, I'm a new player and so far i am loving this game. Playing only about an hour or even less a day provided me with more than enough ISK to fund the Retriever. Generally, I was only limited in skill training time. A few times I tried salvaging and mission running, but it was more for entertainment and comparison rather than the need for ISK. This concludes the small experiment of trying to see how fast I can fly the Retriever only relying on mining income. It all depends on how you would like to play the game. If you really streamline the skills queue, it is possible to fly the Retriever by a few days earlier than 16. To summarize, here's the list of skills I trained in order, with the optional skills not necessary for flying the Retriever italicized: Ideally, the low slots should be fitted with Mining Upgrades to increase the mining yield with the Medium Cargohold Optimization I rigs installed in empty rig slots to maximize the cargo hold capacity. It is possible to customize the Retriever fit to the particular mining ops you're in. ![]() The way I initially fit the Retriever was to maximize the cargo hold capacity without the use of rigs. The 3251.3 m3 cargo hold capacity is also very sizable and allows for almost two cycles without jettisoning the ore. That's 167.61 m3 of ore more than Osprey's yield. ![]() The mining stats for the Retriever with my current skill load-out are as follows: 2x Strip Miner I collect 1695.16 m3/cycle or 565.05 m3/min. ![]()
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